Changing the way we talk about travel

Don’t Go Unless is the official podcast of Don’t Go Travel, providing norm-challenging content for discerning travelers. Join us for biweekly episodes for a country-by-country discussion of how to make sure that your next trip is one that is fulfilling, meaningful, and doesn’t further entrench toxic cycles that have led to overtourism and ultimately the depletion of resources, cultures, and the environment.

Tunisia with Jess Lee Don't Go Unless

Some countries can become so well known for just one or two iconic types of experiences that it's easy to overlook the history, culture, and day to day lifestyles of the people there. Today we'll speak with a cultural immersion expert and coach about her time spent in Tunisia, which is on the North African coast between Libya and Algeria. Jess Lee is a travel coach, planner, and language teacher based in Boston, MA, USA.  Through her coaching program she helps women stop living in fear and feel empowered, confident, and safe to take their first solo trip.  She believes that travel can be healing and perspective-shifting and that the best tools to acheive these goals are solo travel and cultural immersion.  You can find her on Instagram @thewanderword.
  1. Tunisia with Jess Lee
  2. Myanmar
  3. Botswana
  4. Beneath Tulum
  5. Iceland Erupts

About the show

Each episode is edited to run under 30 minutes, perfect to fit into your regular routine. During that time, Graham Marsden will interview a traveler or a tour/experience provider specializing in the country for that episode. Whether you have plans and dreams to visit that specific country or not, we hope you’ll tune in regularly to learn more about places you’d otherwise never imagine visiting. What’s particularly unique about the show is that we will review various aspects of a country through the lens of the online Traveler’s Persona assessment tool offered at What type of traveler are you? Take the quiz and listen along for can’t-miss tips on how to make the most of your next vacation.

About the host

Our first episode serves as an introduction to the show and its host, Graham Marsden. Graham is the founder and CEO of Don’t Go Travel. A survivor of childhood cancer, Graham has made the extra effort to see and experience as much of the world as he can, all while holding down a non-profit job with limited annual vacation leave. Graham currently works from his home in Denver, CO, USA, where he lives with his wife and dog. He is a fastidious collector of DVDs, Pokémon, countries, and once-in-a-lifetime experiences.

As the world’s destinations emerge from this COVID slumber, and reawaken to welcoming visitors from near and far, those who are lucky enough—and dedicated enough—will absolutely be traveling again. If you’re not sure whether your next trip can meet a higher standard, we’d rather you skip it. And if you DO go, we want you to be a Don’t Go traveler.

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